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#51 2010-12-14 08:46:34

Linear Man
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Re: A different tack...

scot_douglas wrote:

Did I ever mention how the quality of one's life (in the garage) is directly proportional to the amount of correct tools are on hand for a project?

I get this one fully.  My wife, however, does not, and wants to know why "sometimes you're so grouchy, and other times you seem to be as happy as can be out there."

I replaced the fuel tank on my S-10 in the driveway by myself, including lifting the box off the frame with a floor jack and blocks of wood.  My neighbor knew then that I am certifiable... tongue


So, is the "new" chassis just a frame donor, or more?


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#52 2010-12-14 12:47:45

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Re: A different tack...

What color you painting it? Or was it mentioned earlier?


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#53 2010-12-14 21:33:55

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Re: A different tack...

Linear Man wrote:

scot_douglas wrote:

Did I ever mention how the quality of one's life (in the garage) is directly proportional to the amount of correct tools are on hand for a project?

I get this one fully.  My wife, however, does not, and wants to know why "sometimes you're so grouchy, and other times you seem to be as happy as can be out there."

I replaced the fuel tank on my S-10 in the driveway by myself, including lifting the box off the frame with a floor jack and blocks of wood.  My neighbor knew then that I am certifiable... tongue


So, is the "new" chassis just a frame donor, or more?

Purely frame and front suspension.  Passenger door and hood are in good shape, so I may use those.  Everything else gets cut up for sale (I've had several people already offer me $$$ for the roof) or for scrap with my old frame.  I need to take both rear ends apart to see if they're in good shape and verify the ratio in the new truck.  My current axle is a 12-bolt 3.73, open.

By the end of the year, I should have the suspension nearly designed & built and the engine and new trans in place.  From there, I'll be able to mock up the driveshaft and start the custom exhaust (after cleaning and painting the frame and rebuilding the front suspension.

We're still up in the air on color, but I'm leaning heavily on this combo (well, my wife wants the "orange" color, and I can't find the particular hue she wants - this is closest):
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3509/3741/33771870001_large.jpg

With this sort of (17")wheel setup in flat or satin black:
http://onlyoldiesgarage.com/xcart/images/P/66-ChvySty16-17RallyeSlvr.jpg


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#54 2010-12-14 21:36:42

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Re: A different tack...

Going to have TruckNutz on it?

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#55 2010-12-14 22:15:30

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Re: A different tack...

he better.


2005 Saab 9-2x Aero 5MT (world rally satin gray), PnP turbo, Factory Gauges, F1 Racing flywheel, 3'' Catless DP, DOM Tuned Stage II, Hella Micro DE fogs, Ixiz, Koyo Rad, Impreza trunk tray FTW!!
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#56 2010-12-15 09:22:18

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Re: A different tack...

NONONONONONONONO.

Truknutz are fer 4x4 BDMT's.


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#57 2010-12-16 14:42:19

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Re: A different tack...

Excellent project. Good write up. Nice way to spend your winter. Would like to see this in person in the spring.

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#58 2010-12-20 10:40:05

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Re: A different tack...

Not much to update - on hold for a week while we hit the U.P. for a week of XC skiing/saunas/hottub/snowboarding.  I do have the new rolling chassis nearly ready to start work on:


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#59 2011-01-07 08:10:36

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Re: A different tack...

Got the new chassis...
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0159.jpg

Set up at the final ride height to measure for suspension components:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0302.jpg

Cut 2" out of the front crossmember for ~ 1/2 of the drop on the front suspension:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0303.jpg


Plan is to go with drop spindles for another 2.5" lower up front.  This route, I can keep decent geometry - which shorter springs don't let you do.  Planning on getting the front crossmember done tomorrow - then start mocking up the new engine and trans location.


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#60 2011-01-13 11:29:20

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Re: A different tack...

2" chop of the crossmember - just a bit more filling and grinding to go. 

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/IMAG0076.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/IMAG0075.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/IMAG0074.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/IMAG0077.jpg


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#61 2011-01-17 17:47:26

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Re: A different tack...

Things have been a bit slow on the truck, as I got Fallout # for Christmas and have been busy shooting bad guise.  banana:d:

So, here are a few pictures:

Old & Busted:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0311.jpg

New Hottness:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0309.jpg

Notches cut for R&P steering & inner fish plates roughed out.  These plates will be the base to tie in the top and bottom of the frame's cross-section.  This is necessary because of the notches AND the added moment arm the upper A-arm will have since it is mounted higher.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0306.jpg


All I know is this:  I want a plasma cutter so bad I can taste it.   banghead:teehee:


Other developments:

I am now the proud owner of a Ford 8.8 IRS out of a Lincoln MkVIII  T-bird supercoupe; stay tuned...

Last edited by scot_douglas (2011-01-18 14:13:44)


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#62 2011-01-18 13:49:41

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Re: A different tack...

Plasma arc's are pretty much the shizzle, dawg.  I used to work for a metal sculptor and the days we were making shapes were definitely the most fun.


2005 Saab 9-2x Aero 5MT (world rally satin gray), PnP turbo, Factory Gauges, F1 Racing flywheel, 3'' Catless DP, DOM Tuned Stage II, Hella Micro DE fogs, Ixiz, Koyo Rad, Impreza trunk tray FTW!!
Stocker 16''s  Nokian Nordman2
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#63 2011-01-23 17:48:04

scot_douglas
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Re: A different tack...

Front end fabrication almost done

Comparison of the "chopped" crossmember vs. stock:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0313.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0312.jpg

Backing plates in, notches cut out and reinforced:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0320.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0317.jpg

Reinforcement for upper a-arms completed:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0325.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0323.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/DSC_0322.jpg

Next is to order the drop spindles and front-end crap, along with a mustang II steering rack and get it set up.   banana


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#64 2011-02-04 07:43:31

scot_douglas
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Re: A different tack...

Quick picture update.

Rack and engine are near their final spots - ended up having to move the engine back an inch and I need to order a smaller crank pulley and damper.  The current ones are 8" in diameter and the ones I'm getting are 6".  This becomes very important with respect to where the rack wants to be for the steering geometry to work out.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0326.jpg


High-dollar spacers to match alignment with the serpentine setup - temporary, of course.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0328.jpg


Looking at the blurry spots - you can see where the rack would benefit from more clearance from a smaller damper and pulley.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0327.jpg


I got these headers for like $5, and with the current mounting location of the engine (and ditching the mechanical clutch linkage) - these fit and will be used.  Once I cut off the air injection tubing, there is plenty of room to run the steering shaft to the rack input (blurry silver spot in the photo)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0331.jpg


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#65 2011-02-04 16:41:17

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Re: A different tack...

looks good scot! You might have this thing running before I have mine hmm


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#66 2011-02-04 17:19:15

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Re: A different tack...

Well done.... so far.  You planning on restoring this bitch then selling it after like most enthusiast do? (please don't).  spider


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#67 2011-02-04 21:08:58

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Re: A different tack...

I would sell that piece in a heart beat.


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#68 2011-02-05 11:32:28

scot_douglas
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Re: A different tack...

huck finn wrote:

Well done.... so far.  You planning on restoring this bitch then selling it after like most enthusiast do? (please don't).  spider

Nope, I think it'll stay around for a long time.  My budget was $10K for the "finished" product.  I'm finding that I may be able to come in way under that, even with buying all the new tools to teach myself how to weld and refinish bodywork.   banana


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#69 2011-02-07 06:27:08

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Re: A different tack...

These are on the way:
http://static.upillar.com/pictures/resources/536050/scaled/9.2010.4.jpg?1287070880

Blatantly copying this:
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200911/1955-chevrolet-e-rod-1_1024x0w.jpg


Less than 1000 miles, $575 shipped to my door.  big_smile


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#70 2011-02-14 09:07:30

scot_douglas
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Re: A different tack...

What's that?  IRS under an old pickup truck!?
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0822.jpg

Shit, more Ford parts on a Chevy - FWIW, this is just getting stored in a convenient place for the moment; I need to massage the frame and the cradle to make it look less like an abomination when I fit it in there.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0823.jpg

Small damper on, rack in it's final spot, but I have to deal with tierod ends; for the best geometry, they need to mount from the underside.  Looking into heavy-duty rod-ends and grade 8 hardware or drilling and reaming the steering arm from the bottom.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0824.jpg

Air injection crap cut out and holes welded up.  Plenty of room for the steering shaft.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/scot_douglas/1966%20C-10/suspension/DSC_0825.jpg


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#71 2011-02-14 11:59:17

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Re: A different tack...

<insert "we're not worthy" .gif here>

I'm impressed, Scot. Keep up the good work.


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#72 2011-02-14 12:24:12

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Re: A different tack...

Is your garage door sporting some after market insulation?

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#73 2011-02-14 13:10:28

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Re: A different tack...

thymighty wrote:

Is your garage door sporting some after market insulation?

You know, as soon as I answer this, you're going to make fun of me, but it is a owens-corning precut kit.   facepalm  I think I got it for $60 / door and it makes the garage a much nicer place in the winter.


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#74 2011-02-14 16:37:33

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Re: A different tack...

scot, i've been watching this project and i wish i had the ability to do work like this.  up

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#75 2011-02-15 11:48:43

scot_douglas
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Re: A different tack...

tilmonabbott wrote:

scot, i've been watching this project and i wish i had the ability to do work like this.  up

Thanks for the props, along with everyone else that has given me encouragement -

But I'd like to say one thing:

What I am doing is not magic and does not require much special skill.  Seriously.  I think the only difference between you and I is that I was in a position to make the "jump" and dedicate resources and time to teaching myself how to do this kind of stuff.  I am naturally a "handyman" but in no way possess any skills - just a weird desire to create. big_smile  On various other site I visit, I have always marveled at peoples' skills and never thought I could do something like them.  We bought this truck, and I decided I was going to fix the rust - then it turned into shortening the WB 3" for a different bed, and things tend to have snowballed from there.   biggrin

All it takes is confidence and a bit of courage, but in my case, stupidity and ignorance fill my sails.   big_smile


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