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#51 2010-07-05 10:13:17

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

My bike doesnt feel heavy at all even when im comparing it to my wifes 26 GF mtn bike. I am 6 foot six and this is the perfect bike for my baby giraffe legs. Also, i havent had any moments when it hasn't been able to handle any tight technical sections yet.                  All personal preference... embeer

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#52 2010-07-05 10:58:49

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

huck finn wrote:

IMO,

Stick with 26.

My pros and cons on 29er:

Pros:
You roll over smaller bumps and rocks easier/sometimes you don't even feel them.
Longer wheel base
Lower center of gravity
Stable at bombing downhill.

Cons:
Turning radius sucks ass
HEAVY
Switchbacks will prove difficult because of the wider turning radius and the longer wheel base.
Does not feel nimble.
HEAVY

I'd say go with the 29er.  Yeah, they are heavier, but the only time that's a problem is accelerating.  With good disc brakes you don't even notice the weight, and it helps to keep the momentum over the small stuff.  I've noticed only slightly less nimbleness with them vs 26, not enough that I'd go 26 in anything but an extremely technical or trials ride.  I'm pretty use to 29er - I've been riding them for at least 15 years, back when they were still called 700c, and the only decent off-road tire that fit them was a Panaracer Smoke.  Never understood why you'd want smaller wheels off-road given how well the 29er work.

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#53 2010-07-05 13:59:45

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

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#54 2010-07-05 14:19:43

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

huck finn wrote:

IMO,

Stick with 26.

My pros and cons on 29er:

Pros:
You roll over smaller bumps and rocks easier/sometimes you don't even feel them.
Longer wheel base
Lower center of gravity
Stable at bombing downhill.
Fit's taller people better

Cons:
Turning radius sucks ass
HEAVY
Switchbacks will prove difficult because of the wider turning radius and the longer wheel base.
Does not feel nimble.
HEAVY

Forgot to add that they'll fit taller people better.  I guess it really depends on which model you get and the angle of the head tube.  There are some 29er hardtails out there where the angle is so lax that the turning radius is really bad.  There are some brands out there that get it right, but my suggestion would be to ride both for more than 10mins each and make up your own mind.


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#55 2010-07-05 14:30:48

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

any input on titus bikes? they come up on chain love every once in a while for pretty decent prices


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#56 2010-07-05 14:34:02

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Huck, I think that may have been part of the problem with my last bike. This new one seems much more nimble with a smaller frame and 26in tires.
Now if only it wasn't 95 ( feels like 97 w/humidity ) outside I would be out pedaling around.


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#57 2010-07-05 22:56:48

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

MetalNeverDies wrote:

any input on titus bikes? they come up on chain love every once in a while for pretty decent prices

Do it, you won't be disappointed.


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#58 2010-07-05 23:01:20

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

mkaz wrote:

MetalNeverDies wrote:

any input on titus bikes? they come up on chain love every once in a while for pretty decent prices

Do it, you won't be disappointed.

i take it you have one? whats the weight on it?

i would be comming from a giant ac3


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#59 2010-07-06 01:05:47

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

MetalNeverDies wrote:

mkaz wrote:

MetalNeverDies wrote:

any input on titus bikes? they come up on chain love every once in a while for pretty decent prices

Do it, you won't be disappointed.

i take it you have one? whats the weight on it?

i would be comming from a giant ac3

Don't have one but I ride with friends that do and they love them.  Its not a brand new suspension but its a proven design and a quality ride.  For the price they have been on Chainlove its a very good setup.  Not sure of the weight, I'm happy with my SC Blur so I haven't paid them too much attention other than messaging a couple of friends that are in the market for a new bike.


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#60 2010-07-06 01:44:45

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

thoughts on titus vs specialized?


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#61 2010-07-06 10:02:40

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Titus HQ are in Tempe which is cool.  I'm partial to the smaller brands these days but Spesh is a good bike too.  I'd try to ride both and see what you like better.  I rode a lot of different frames before deciding that the Blur was perfect for me.


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#62 2010-07-06 14:11:20

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Too bad you can't take them out on a trail to see which rides better. You can't tell much when you ride on pavement


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#63 2010-07-06 14:17:41

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Too bad you can't take them out on a trail to see which rides better. You can't tell much when you ride on pavement


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#64 2010-07-06 14:24:47

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Topher wrote:

Too bad you can't take them out on a trail to see which rides better. You can't tell much when you ride on pavement


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#65 2010-07-06 16:25:25

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Jeepis wrote:

Topher wrote:

Too bad you can't take them out on a trail to see which rides better. You can't tell much when you ride on pavement

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#66 2010-07-06 18:46:14

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

arrow-up
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#67 2010-07-06 20:57:56

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Answer:

Go to said bikes website and look for 'demos' in your area.  Drive there and demo bikes.  Talk to reps.  Find what you like.  Buy.  They might even sell you a demo for a steal.


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#68 2010-07-06 23:18:47

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

I also found that you can get a reasonable feel for how a bike is going to ride even on pavement.  Hit some low curbs, jump some taller ones, find a hill to climb to see how the power is transferred.  Sure, its going to be different on dirt but if you are comparing them all in a similar environment it will show you some differences.


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#69 2010-07-08 01:57:58

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

So, got the bike in today and got everything assembled and adjusted.  I started to lose a little patience getting the front caliper aligned correctly, but eventually managed to get it to stop rubbing.  Yeah the bike is heavy, but I think I can live with that for now.  I'll give it a test run tomorrow and see how mch I really like it.  It's a definite upgrade over the old POS Univega I used to have.

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#70 2010-07-08 11:44:09

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Note to self:  You are desperately out of shape.  Build yourself up SLOWLY or you will have a nasty asthma attack.




Shit. failed that one already.   facepalm

Got it out for a 30 min ride, though.  Worked nice enough for me.  Yeah, the shifters don't shift that smoothly, but that's the only real issue I noticed, and it's manageable.  Might just need some initial adjustment as well.   I also realized that I probably shouldn't be clipping in to a mountain bike until I get used to it.  There are several short, but steep, hills to climb in the local park, and I went over twice because I couldn't quite break free in time...

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#71 2010-07-09 11:01:11

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Bumping this to ask if Motobecane is any good anymore.  They've got some single speed 29ers and a nice flip-flop fixie that I'm eyeballing over at bikesdirect.com.  I know they've been discussed and at least Hammy has one, but I'm considering something that will make my work commute a bit more of a kick in the ass.

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#72 2010-07-09 11:54:17

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Second day down.  The only burn I felt was in my legs, not my lungs.  Rode a little bit further, going a little bit slower because I had Foster running at my side.  I actually feel that post-exercise high today.  Makes me want to go out and ride again.  I hope this means I finally found a daily routine that I won't get tired of.

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#73 2010-07-10 01:41:42

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Nice, you moved on that quick. Getting an exercise routine you actually enjoy is a good thing.  up


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#74 2011-03-30 15:28:59

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

Azrael, you still like the Forge?

I might pick up a bike this summer.

My last bike was a '99 Klein Attitude Comp with Deore XT components. Never upgraded anything because nothing ever broke.

Can I get a used mountain bike that's as good as this for $500? Probably, right?

I have no idea what brands to look for on Craigs, I'm so far out of the game.

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#75 2011-03-30 16:37:56

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Re: Mountain Bike discussion time.

So far it's been solid.  I only ride it about once a month, but I'm trying to change that.  The weight is the only issue I've really had with it, but if I was in better shape, I doubt it'd be an issue.

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