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#26 2011-03-23 20:23:03

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

illzguju wrote:

Who cares? The GOP lost my respect a long time ago.

+1  I don't have a whole lot of use for either political party.  Unfortunately, it's in neither party's interest to allow a viable third party to emerge.  So we're stuck with facepalm choices.


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#27 2011-03-23 21:01:23

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

http://cityofatlantic.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/donald-trump-1.jpg


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#28 2011-03-23 21:20:12

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

Screw politicians


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#29 2011-03-23 21:26:04

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#30 2011-03-23 22:28:32

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

NineTwoX wrote:

http://cityofatlantic.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/donald-trump-1.jpg

Stop bringing up this asshole.  lol

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#31 2011-03-23 22:29:25

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

macberry wrote:

john_matrix wrote:

I need some more info on why Ron Paul is so FTW.

I might vote for him if I can get some solid info.

Read his books:

The Revolution: A Manifesto

Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom

A Foreign Policy of Freedom: Peace, Commerce, and Honest Friendship

FULL DISCLOSURE:  I'm biased ... I was a foreign policy advisor for Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign and I wrote this about him prior to being asked to be an advisor.

That said, unfortunately, the likelihood of Ron Paul getting the Republican nomination is somewhere between slim and none ... and slim just took the last train out of Albuquerque.  The GOP has no interest whatsoever in letting Ron Paul get nominated ... largely because of his views on foreign policy, which resonate with a lot of Americans but not with the American political elite and with the big political donors.  And, also unfortunately, Ron Paul won't run as anything but a Republican.  While I think he represents what a Republican should be, he isn't what the Republican Party currently is.  And IMHO if you bother to dig deep enough (and it doesn't have to be very deep) and do any real thinking and analysis, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between Republicans and Democrats ... it's mostly just differences in style, not real substance.

Thanks for the info, I have some reading to do tomorrow.

I might pick up one of his books.  up

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#32 2011-03-24 00:48:14

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

I'd vote for donald trump. Why the hell not


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#33 2011-03-24 01:02:51

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

None of those ass bags deserve the presidency or should be anywhere near our political process. mad
Palin should be dumped in Russia and left to rot.
If I HAD to choose from that list, Romney, as he's a New England republican which is basically a southern democrat. However, I won't choose from that list because I'm voting for a man I can respect as president and hell, he already is and I'd like it to stay that way.


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#34 2011-03-24 01:09:51

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

What has the current president done exactly to deserve your undying respect?


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#35 2011-03-24 01:24:27

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

Not lied for one.
He also hasn't been a complete douche bag like 3/4 of those potential candidates.
He helped slow down the recession.
Saved GM's ass
He's working on a Universal healthcare system that could work for our country.
Ended a media blackout on war casualties

You know what, I'm cheating from here on out. Here ya go. http://www.bspcn.com/2010/10/18/things-obama-has-done/


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#36 2011-03-24 01:25:44

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race


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#37 2011-03-24 08:06:10

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

phillipj wrote:

Why the hell did you start this thread?  To point out the lunacy of the whole thing?  I mean seriously, It's ridiculous.

About what I was thinking... confused


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#38 2011-03-24 08:25:55

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

VTPhotog wrote:

Not lied for one.

confused
http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies


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#39 2011-03-24 08:27:08

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

Linear Man wrote:

phillipj wrote:

Why the hell did you start this thread?  To point out the lunacy of the whole thing?  I mean seriously, It's ridiculous.

About what I was thinking... confused

It's crazy what a piss poor list of candidates we have to choose from every year considering how great this country is.


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#40 2011-03-24 09:08:08

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

VTPhotog wrote:

Not lied for one.
He also hasn't been a complete douche bag like 3/4 of those potential candidates.
He helped slow down the recession.
Saved GM's ass
He's working on a Universal healthcare system that could work for our country.
Ended a media blackout on war casualties

You know what, I'm cheating from here on out. Here ya go. http://www.bspcn.com/2010/10/18/things-obama-has-done/

If any other of our presidents had doubled the National debt, which had
Taken more Than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would You have
Approved?

If any other of our presidents had then proposed to Double the debt again
Within 10 Years, would you have approved?


If any other of our presidents had criticized a state law That he admitted
He never Even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot Head?


If any other of our presidents joined the country of Mexico and sued A state
In the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal
Immigration, Would you question his patriotism and wonder who's side he was
On?

If any other of our presidents had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine
Corpse, would you think him an idiot?

If any other of our presidents had put 87,000 workers out of work by
Arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies That
Have one of the best safety records of any industry because one foreign
Company had an accident, would you have agreed?

If any other of our presidents had used a forged document as the Basis of
The moratorium that would render 87000 American workers Unemployed would you
Support him?

If any other of our presidents had been the first President to need A
Teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, Would
You have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own
And is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If any other of our presidents had spent hundreds of thousands of Dollars to
Take his First Lady to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had reduced your retirement plan Holdings of
GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, Would you have
Approved?

If any other of our presidents had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given Gordon Brown a set of Inexpensive
And incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given Him a thoughtful
And historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given the Queen of England an IPod
Containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought it a proud Moment
For America ?

If any other of our presidents had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, Would
You have approved?

If any other of our presidents had visited Austria and made Reference to the
Nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed It off as a minor
Slip?

If any other of our presidents had filled his cabinet and circle of Advisers
With people who cannot seem to keep current in their income Taxes, would you
Have approved?

If any other of our presidents had stated that there were 57 states In the
United States , wouldn't you have had second thoughts about his
Capabilities?

If any other of our presidents would have flown all the way to Denmark to
Make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit Him walking
Out his front door in his home town, would you not have Thought he was a
Self important, conceited, egotistical jerk.

If any other of our presidents had been so Spanish illiterate as to Refer to
"Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was The 5th of
May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried Again, wouldn't
You have winced in embarrassment?

If any other of our presidents had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel To go
Plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a Hypocrite?

If any other of our presidents' administrations had okayed Air Force One
Flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in Downtown
Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they
Actually get what happened on 9-11?

If any other of our presidents had failed to send relief aid to Flood
Victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made Homeless than
In New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing Political issue
With claims of racism and incompetence?

If any other of our presidents had created the position of 32 Czars Who
Report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what Is
Happening in America , would you have ever approved.

If any other of our presidents had ordered the firing of the CEO of A major
Corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do So, would
You have approved?

Every statement and action above is factual and directly
attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record
and completely verifiable.




I will admit I robbed this from an email I received and in no way am I making a political statement. Just thought it was appropriate. biggrin

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#41 2011-03-24 09:15:36

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

VTPhotog wrote:

Not lied for one.
He also hasn't been a complete douche bag like 3/4 of those potential candidates.
He helped slow down the recession.
Saved GM's ass
He's working on a Universal healthcare system that could work for our country.
Ended a media blackout on war casualties

You know what, I'm cheating from here on out. Here ya go. http://www.bspcn.com/2010/10/18/things-obama-has-done/

sly Brainwashed much?

I'm voting for Trump.  GOP sucks ass, but I share about 60% of my views with them, and Democrats suck ass.  The political system sucks ass.  You all suck ass...


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#42 2011-03-24 09:34:24

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

Rhetoric like this is pretty much the lowest common denominator of political discourse, regardless of which side claims it.


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#43 2011-03-24 09:37:02

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

WDEagle wrote:

It's crazy what a piss poor list of candidates we have to choose from every year considering how great this country is.

Well there's your problem. The jingoists like the smell of their own farts.

WE'RE #1! JUST KEEP SAYING IT AND IT WILL BE TRUE!!!


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#44 2011-03-24 09:43:26

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

Nelly wrote:

VTPhotog wrote:

Not lied for one.
He also hasn't been a complete douche bag like 3/4 of those potential candidates.
He helped slow down the recession.
Saved GM's ass
He's working on a Universal healthcare system that could work for our country.
Ended a media blackout on war casualties

You know what, I'm cheating from here on out. Here ya go. http://www.bspcn.com/2010/10/18/things-obama-has-done/

If any other of our presidents had doubled the National debt, which had
Taken more Than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would You have
Approved?

If any other of our presidents had then proposed to Double the debt again
Within 10 Years, would you have approved?


If any other of our presidents had criticized a state law That he admitted
He never Even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot Head?


If any other of our presidents joined the country of Mexico and sued A state
In the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal
Immigration, Would you question his patriotism and wonder who's side he was
On?

If any other of our presidents had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine
Corpse, would you think him an idiot?

If any other of our presidents had put 87,000 workers out of work by
Arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies That
Have one of the best safety records of any industry because one foreign
Company had an accident, would you have agreed?

If any other of our presidents had used a forged document as the Basis of
The moratorium that would render 87000 American workers Unemployed would you
Support him?

If any other of our presidents had been the first President to need A
Teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, Would
You have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own
And is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If any other of our presidents had spent hundreds of thousands of Dollars to
Take his First Lady to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had reduced your retirement plan Holdings of
GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, Would you have
Approved?

If any other of our presidents had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given Gordon Brown a set of Inexpensive
And incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given Him a thoughtful
And historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If any other of our presidents had given the Queen of England an IPod
Containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought it a proud Moment
For America ?

If any other of our presidents had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, Would
You have approved?

If any other of our presidents had visited Austria and made Reference to the
Nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed It off as a minor
Slip?

If any other of our presidents had filled his cabinet and circle of Advisers
With people who cannot seem to keep current in their income Taxes, would you
Have approved?

If any other of our presidents had stated that there were 57 states In the
United States , wouldn't you have had second thoughts about his
Capabilities?

If any other of our presidents would have flown all the way to Denmark to
Make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit Him walking
Out his front door in his home town, would you not have Thought he was a
Self important, conceited, egotistical jerk.

If any other of our presidents had been so Spanish illiterate as to Refer to
"Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was The 5th of
May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried Again, wouldn't
You have winced in embarrassment?

If any other of our presidents had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel To go
Plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a Hypocrite?

If any other of our presidents' administrations had okayed Air Force One
Flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in Downtown
Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they
Actually get what happened on 9-11?

If any other of our presidents had failed to send relief aid to Flood
Victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made Homeless than
In New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing Political issue
With claims of racism and incompetence?

If any other of our presidents had created the position of 32 Czars Who
Report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what Is
Happening in America , would you have ever approved.

If any other of our presidents had ordered the firing of the CEO of A major
Corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do So, would
You have approved?

Every statement and action above is factual and directly
attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record
and completely verifiable.




I will admit I robbed this from an email I received and in no way am I making a political statement. Just thought it was appropriate. biggrin

Please keep emails out of this thread.

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#45 2011-03-24 09:52:01

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

SilentlyAmazing wrote:

VTPhotog wrote:

Not lied for one.
He also hasn't been a complete douche bag like 3/4 of those potential candidates.
He helped slow down the recession.
Saved GM's ass
He's working on a Universal healthcare system that could work for our country.
Ended a media blackout on war casualties

You know what, I'm cheating from here on out. Here ya go. http://www.bspcn.com/2010/10/18/things-obama-has-done/

sly Brainwashed much?

I'm voting for Trump.  GOP sucks ass, but I share about 60% of my views with them, and Democrats suck ass.  The political system sucks ass.  You all suck ass...

Just so I'm clear in this thread, Trump asked to see Obama's birth certificate.

I'll even link to a right news source:

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/trum … /id/390547

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#46 2011-03-24 09:53:22

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From: Marietta, GA
Registered: 2011-01-24
User Number: 5169
Posts: 3119

Re: The 2016 Presidential race

And here I was thinking this site was made of 99% liberals. (Even with the gun threads)

I hate how the two main parties bash each other so viciously. Difference in opinion is fine with me, it keeps a decent balance most of the time. I find myself more conservative in most situations, but I try to hear both sides out. Some people are simply stuck with their "party" that they will defend, or even vote for, people who suck because they are simply on their party’s side.

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#47 2011-03-24 09:55:47

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

phillipj wrote:

Why the hell did you start this thread?  To point out the lunacy of the whole thing?  I mean seriously, It's ridiculous.

I will most likely vote to re-elect Obama, but I want to keep my options open. I'd like to get some info about candidates before they officially announce they are running and all info about them gets spun out of control.

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#48 2011-03-24 09:57:09

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From: Houston, Texas
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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

john_matrix wrote:

I'll even link to a right news source:

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/trum … /id/390547

Newsmax is right up there with HuffPo - they're not news, they're crap.


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#49 2011-03-24 10:00:26

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

Well, take your pick then. Trump said it.

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#50 2011-03-24 10:01:26

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Re: The 2016 Presidential race

arrow-up  Well, yeah, but Trump was on The View.  Didn't you all watch that live?  star


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