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#1 2011-05-24 23:00:49

92x_dude
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Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

I'm slowly gathering all the parts to change my TB/WP and everything else that goes!

I'm just wondering if anybody local has done one on these engines(2.5i) so I don't completely fuck it up!

Thanks guy and gals!  embeer cool

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#2 2011-05-25 20:44:17

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Just did one of these yesterday. Whereabouts in toronto are you? Im in Oakville.

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#3 2011-05-25 23:00:02

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Awesome! How difficult was it?

I'm actually in Mississauga right by square 1! I'm in Oakville once a week, maybe 2 weeks! biggrin

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#4 2011-05-26 09:14:09

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

It's fairly easy. Straight forward. I didn't change the waterpump
Though. When are you planning on doing it?

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#5 2011-05-26 09:45:05

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Middle of June once I get back home and start parts acquisition. I'll do everything including the waterpump and accessory belts!

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#6 2011-05-26 09:45:23

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Welcome to the forums BTW, I see you're new! smile

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#7 2011-05-26 11:17:00

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Welcome !  Maybe I can come watch and learn a thing or 2??

*Thread jack*
Alex, my roof rails came in, I will prob need help installing them. let em know

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#8 2011-05-26 13:14:52

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Yeah, sure, timing belt academy at my place followed by the pub!

Steve, at least now your mind is at ease and you don't have to worry about being shafted on them, no tracking on them!  biggrin

Definitely, for the rails install, you know how to get a hang of me!

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#9 2011-05-26 22:57:35

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

And so she died on 403 in the middle lane today at 8PM, close to home! Stalled and I had to limp it to the shoulder, my cluster resembles a Christmas tree with the lights on!

Try to fire it up again, goes for a bit and what I can hear is the sound of something "flapping" around the engine bay, my first guess a piece of the belt, or a really bad spark as the cyl 1 and 3 wires used to do before! Then dead! tried again 5 min later, I limped it home, in 2nd! If I dare toss it in a higher gear, it would stall and I really have to rev it to get it going!

Shakes like crazy and barely pulls, feel more like misfire! If it was the belt, I'm sure it wouldn't drive anymore!

now I have ney car!

Last edited by 92x_dude (2011-05-26 22:59:10)

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#10 2011-05-27 08:18:50

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Ouch.  Check your plugs.  Running on 3 cylinders will sound a lot like this.  It could just be a loose plug, or a wire that fell off.


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#11 2011-05-27 13:30:51

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Shit, I'd offer to help, but im in FL at the moment.  Ditto on the TB change.  You're still in Oakville?

I'd look at those plug wires as suggested.

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#12 2011-05-27 15:15:58

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Linear Man wrote:

Ouch.  Check your plugs.  Running on 3 cylinders will sound a lot like this.  It could just be a loose plug, or a wire that fell off.

I just changed the plugs and wires in December!
I've been having sparks going on betweeen  cyl 1 and 3 wires at the coil, but nothing this serious and no codes! I'm changed the wires, ran multiple layers of electrical tape on them, all can't fix! I'll make a grounding kit tonight with some 10 gauge wire from HomeDepot, see if that does any good! As far as the ignition wires go, they were my first suspicion and checked that they were in properly on the side of the highway!

Out to lunch wrote:

Shit, I'd offer to help, but im in FL at the moment.  Ditto on the TB change.  You're still in Oakville?

I'd look at those plug wires as suggested.

After this gets straightened out, TB for sure after!

I moved from Oakville in November, I'm in Mississauga, close to Square One!

Have fun in Florida!

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#13 2011-05-27 18:50:15

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Thanks for the welcome. Shitty that it died but at least you didn't have to pay for a tow. I'll be I'm Europe for most of June so I doubt I'll be able to help too much. I work for a dealer though so if you need any info I'll help as best I can.

I'd say the worst part of the job for you is going to be trying to hold the crank pulley as you try and crack the bolt loose.

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#14 2011-05-27 19:02:59

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

I plan to take the whole front end apart(bumper+rad), to work easier! Like the TB on Audi A4! since I'm at it, I'll have to somehow get to that lower rad hose anyway!

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#15 2011-08-18 00:54:10

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

...I had the London Subaru dealership change my timing belt + aux. belts + water pump + new water pump gasket + fresh coolant + new plugs = ~$900 (including my 10% TSC member discount). Fuck it.... I'm sick of bloody nuckles.

Ready for another 100,000km's. She's at 199,000km's now and I redline it at least once a day!!   banana  Still pulls like a champ.


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#16 2011-08-22 19:28:34

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Waaayy to much! I'm still getting parts and I'm going to tackle this myself!
Still haven't done it and rolling on 163 000km

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#17 2011-08-22 20:54:38

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

I just completed mine yesterday

Alum radiator and silicone hoses
Lightened drive pulley
Water pump / gasket / thermostat / gasket
Timing belt and all the pulleys
PS/ALT  & AC belts
Coolant and conditioner

I didnt have time i would also have refresh the steering pump fluid


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#18 2011-08-23 12:35:59

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Alex: NV Auto will do it for $800, inc parts, so $900 from a dealer isn't all that bad. 

If your cam seals aren't leaking, leave them; it's a huge PITA.  I have a Paraut water pump and thermostat for an n/a 2.5 that I incorrectly ordered.  LMK.

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#19 2011-10-19 16:11:12

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Hey guys,

I thought I should let you all know of the progress and trouble on this.

I've had the TB done at a local SAAB service center, I bought all the parts! All it it run me about $850, I got a good price for the parts, everything from hoses, WP, gasket, idles, pulleys, camshaft seals, all belts and tensioner for $550! Work was done before the long weekend, car's running strong and I'm happy.

For the long weekend I took a trip 500 kms north and I notice that the car is running very smooth, doesn't overheat, stong champ as she's always been all this time. All is good except for one thing, towards the end of my trip getting there, I start to hear a faint tick from the engine, so minimal that I don't even begin to worry.

On my way back, I'm going 110kmh on the highway and 1 hour into my driving back, I hear 2 major bangs from the engine and the whole motor starts to clutter and make this screeching noise as if pistons were made of wire and they were scratching the cylinder walls. My first thought is the worst, engine being gone, but I'm thinking, it could be the plugs again, as I've lived through something similar with the car, so I pull over, let her cool down for 30 minutes and then start having at the plug wires to see if they were burned, but nothing, everything is clean.

I don't see any sign as to were the smoke came from and then I started to worry because I don't know what's wrong with the car, I'm 400 KMs away from home with a loaded trunk and 2 other persons I have to get home. We left early so I can get them back early to have Thanksgiving dinners with their families. I try to start the motor, but it won't even budge! Try again and it sounds again like steel wires scratching cylinders and now I'm thinking that the belt came off somehow!

I got a local fellow with a flat bed to tow me home, $700 plus $150 in diesel got her at the shop again. The next day, the shop calls me saying that one of the bolts that held the tensioner broke ''on it's own'', they take fault and I have two options, to either get the heads rebuilt or to get a newer engine with about 20k less on it as a replacement, all tested to be good, as well with a passed compression test.

I went the newer engine route because God knows what else could be wrong with my engine from this incident!

Now I'm driving a rental which really makes me miss my  92x , this rental has far less displacement, it's peppy but not enough and it eats gas like there's no tomorrow.

Car should be ready by Friday!

CN: I have the TB done at a shop, car broke because of one of the tensioner bolts that broke, shop takes the blame and I get a newer engine put in!

Last edited by 92x_dude (2011-10-19 16:16:22)

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#20 2011-10-19 18:53:32

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Sucks that it happened but at least they are doing that for you!


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#21 2011-10-19 23:40:32

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

God, how I hate vultures.  Sorry to hear about this, good choice on the used engine, there's no telling what else was damaged in yours.  Well, not without taking it apart.  Let's hope the shop installs all the necessary bolts this time, without overtorquing any of them.

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#22 2011-10-20 11:45:50

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Hey Alex, ask if they will give you cash instead? get a 2.5 turbo and harness put in !

I might need a hand doing the roof rails... need some pointers.

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#23 2011-10-20 17:12:16

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

Thanks guys!

Steve, it's too late for that. A few days later I see an STI engine, transmission and suspension on Kijiji, and I was banging my head then!

Last edited by 92x_dude (2011-10-20 17:50:43)

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#24 2011-10-20 17:41:05

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

meh, for that STI transplant you'd also need a diff and a driveshaft and the brakes and, and, and...

It'd be great but you'd need a lot of dough.


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#25 2011-10-20 17:48:49

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Re: Timing belt change help(Toronto, ON)

It came with all that!

Here's the link guys:

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicle … Z304983877

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