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#76 2012-01-13 00:44:35

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Absolutely beautiful! Congrats!


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#77 2012-01-13 16:17:30

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Second report.

Despite all the small nicks in the windshield, the S4 drives great.  It's so different from the 92x.  I take most corners at a gear higher, since the V8 just pulls from lower rpm's.  On the freeway, there's no need for a downshift to pass, even in 6th gear.  Of course, there is no lag in acceleration, just smooth linear acceleration up to 7,000 rpm.

The steering effort is a little more than the 92x (which I like).  And the clutch is so much lighter than the 92x.  When I was moving the cars around and got into the 92x, I thought I was pressing the brake pedal at first, but it was the clutch I was pressing.

Hopefully this weekend, I'll drive around the island and get the highway mpg for the S4.  I gotta get the front plate mounted (damn Hawaii that requires front plates).  Audi wants over $135 for a front plate mount for the S4.  I'm thinking of going with the heavy duty velcro or the 3M industrial double stick tape route.  Or I'll just bite the bullet and screw the plate directly on the front bumper.


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2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart - Rotor Glow, all stock
2008 Yamaha R1 - Black, all stock
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#78 2012-01-13 16:24:01

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

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zip tie it to the air duct.  spider


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#79 2012-01-13 16:50:13

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Needs more supercharger, ohlins and stasis exhaust smile

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#80 2012-01-13 17:00:12

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

How's the quietness/ isolation at highway speed? Does the ride feel at least somewhat supple and tranquil?


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#81 2012-01-13 17:04:03

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

speed808 wrote:

Second report.

Despite all the small nicks in the windshield, the S4 drives great.  It's so different from the 92x.  I take most corners at a gear higher, since the V8 just pulls from lower rpm's.  On the freeway, there's no need for a downshift to pass, even in 6th gear.  Of course, there is no lag in acceleration, just smooth linear acceleration up to 7,000 rpm.

The steering effort is a little more than the 92x (which I like).  And the clutch is so much lighter than the 92x.  When I was moving the cars around and got into the 92x, I thought I was pressing the brake pedal at first, but it was the clutch I was pressing.

Hopefully this weekend, I'll drive around the island and get the highway mpg for the S4.  I gotta get the front plate mounted (damn Hawaii that requires front plates).  Audi wants over $135 for a front plate mount for the S4.  I'm thinking of going with the heavy duty velcro or the 3M industrial double stick tape route.  Or I'll just bite the bullet and screw the plate directly on the front bumper.

I liked the heavier steering feel, too, but it was pretty damn precise.  Then again, the car is considerably heavier than the 92x, so its expected.  That clutch is pretty light, yeah.  that 8 just pulls and pulls...but if you want to shake off any traffic, dropping a gear and stepping on the gas is like getting knocked back in the seat by a sledgehammer.  Awesome.  For such a big car, it's real nimble.  My dad sold his - the mpgs were just too much for his commute...and he bought a Cayman S.  Still says he sometimes misses the s4a.


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#82 2012-01-13 17:31:22

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Bunnspeed wrote:

How's the quietness/ isolation at highway speed? Does the ride feel at least somewhat supple and tranquil?

It's a little more quiet than the 92x.  The ride is a little stiffer than the 92x but I can easily live with that.


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2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart - Rotor Glow, all stock
2008 Yamaha R1 - Black, all stock
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#83 2012-01-13 17:53:52

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

The heavier steering "feel" is due to the much higher caster spec'd for all German cars, it causes stronger self centering and helps with precision, but the big reason is the "sneeze" factor needed for safe Autobahn running (especially bearing in mind that anyone who lands a license (not so easy, BTW) can go as fast as they or their car can go, enthusiast or not).


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#84 2012-01-13 18:08:28

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Scargo wrote:

The heavier steering "feel" is due to the much higher caster spec'd for all German cars, it causes stronger self centering and helps with precision, but the big reason is the "sneeze" factor needed for safe Autobahn running (especially bearing in mind that anyone who lands a license (not so easy, BTW) can go as fast as they or their car can go, enthusiast or not).

Yeah, I always liked the heavier steering "feel" on the Audi's.


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2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart - Rotor Glow, all stock
2008 Yamaha R1 - Black, all stock
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#85 2012-01-13 18:11:54

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

caster is faster  big_smile


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#86 2012-01-13 19:26:32

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

speed808 wrote:

Scargo wrote:

The heavier steering "feel" is due to the much higher caster spec'd for all German cars, it causes stronger self centering and helps with precision, but the big reason is the "sneeze" factor needed for safe Autobahn running (especially bearing in mind that anyone who lands a license (not so easy, BTW) can go as fast as they or their car can go, enthusiast or not).

Yeah, I always liked the heavier steering "feel" on the Audi's.

Audi's what?

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#87 2012-01-13 19:39:22

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

arrow-up  facepalm


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#88 2012-01-13 20:47:59

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Scargo wrote:

arrow-up  facepalm

Why are you 'so mean to poor old Chri's? sadbanana

I's thi's better?

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#89 2012-01-13 21:12:38

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

'cuz U mayk such a byg deel uf yt...


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#90 2012-01-13 23:46:45

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

untroo eye jus maik lot's uv lityl deelz uv it

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#91 2012-01-15 15:08:32

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

This thread needs less grammar nazi's, moar S4 Avant'ss's.


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#92 2012-01-17 16:16:03

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

huckleberry wrote:

arrow-up

zip tie it to the air duct.  spider

Good idea.  I zip tied it and also used 3M Industrial double stick tape for now.


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2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart - Rotor Glow, all stock
2008 Yamaha R1 - Black, all stock
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#93 2012-01-17 16:22:37

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

speed808 wrote:

tlow98 wrote:

Ditched the girl huh? 

Taking advantage of this opportunity  up up up

Nice.

Nope.  Keeping the Corolla S for her.  The Corolla S is the daily driver.  The 92x and S4 are the weekend cars.  I'm just glad I can park the S4 in the garage, the 92x in the driveway and the Corolla S on the street.

no offense, but what's the point of having 2 sporty wagons for weekend cars? why not sell the 9-2x and put the money toward the s4 or maybe buy something else different (a jeep or a convertible?)
the car looks really really clean, please don't drill holes in the bumper.
this thread also needs more pictures


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#94 2012-01-17 16:39:28

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

cjaama wrote:

speed808 wrote:

tlow98 wrote:

Ditched the girl huh? 

Taking advantage of this opportunity  up up up

Nice.

Nope.  Keeping the Corolla S for her.  The Corolla S is the daily driver.  The 92x and S4 are the weekend cars.  I'm just glad I can park the S4 in the garage, the 92x in the driveway and the Corolla S on the street.

no offense, but what's the point of having 2 sporty wagons for weekend cars? why not sell the 9-2x and put the money toward the s4 or maybe buy something else different (a jeep or a convertible?)
the car looks really really clean, please don't drill holes in the bumper.
this thread also needs more pictures

I think keeping the 92x is a smart idea in this situation. To begin with, the 92x Aero is like the 'poor man's Avant', namely it's a fun fast wagon that's actually affordable to beat on on a daily basis. It's a car thats value and reliability aren't all that negatively affected by racking up the miles. The 6MT S4 Avant, on the other hand, is so rare and so expensive to pile on the miles in (in terms of depreciation, gas, and maintenance) that it's a good idea to keep the miles down on it. Every mile it racks up gets you that much closer to an exorbitantly expensive repair or service interval, and reduces its value, which correlates with its 'unicorn' status afforded to such a clean, low mile example. The S4 isn't a car you want to piss away, but something to be saved for special-ish occasions. BUT, it is such a nice, wonderful car that the whole point of buying it was to buy something epic, not something practical. This way he can both drive something that's a reliable throwaway car that's fun, and also have something reeaally nice to hold onto for a while. Plus, as I mentioned before, the S4 will be practically free if he keeps the miles down and sells it for what he bought it for within the next year or three.


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#95 2012-01-17 16:54:23

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Bunnspeed wrote:

cjaama wrote:

speed808 wrote:


Nope.  Keeping the Corolla S for her.  The Corolla S is the daily driver.  The 92x and S4 are the weekend cars.  I'm just glad I can park the S4 in the garage, the 92x in the driveway and the Corolla S on the street.

no offense, but what's the point of having 2 sporty wagons for weekend cars? why not sell the 9-2x and put the money toward the s4 or maybe buy something else different (a jeep or a convertible?)
the car looks really really clean, please don't drill holes in the bumper.
this thread also needs more pictures

I think keeping the 92x is a smart idea in this situation. To begin with, the 92x Aero is like the 'poor man's Avant', namely it's a fun fast wagon that's actually affordable to beat on on a daily basis. It's a car thats value and reliability aren't all that negatively affected by racking up the miles. The 6MT S4 Avant, on the other hand, is so rare and so expensive to pile on the miles in (in terms of depreciation, gas, and maintenance) that it's a good idea to keep the miles down on it. Every mile it racks up gets you that much closer to an exorbitantly expensive repair or service interval, and reduces its value, which correlates with its 'unicorn' status afforded to such a clean, low mile example. The S4 isn't a car you want to piss away, but something to be saved for special-ish occasions. BUT, it is such a nice, wonderful car that the whole point of buying it was to buy something epic, not something practical. This way he can both drive something that's a reliable throwaway car that's fun, and also have something reeaally nice to hold onto for a while. Plus, as I mentioned before, the S4 will be practically free if he keeps the miles down and sells it for what he bought it for within the next year or three.

Well said.  I still really like my 92x and like I mentioned before, it's paid off, has low miles (41K), and it's still a blast to drive.

Just the other day, my GF had to use the Corolla and I used the 92x to go to work.  I would never want to drive the S4 to work.  Too many people in my bldg. don't know how to park and open doors nicely (door dings).


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2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart - Rotor Glow, all stock
2008 Yamaha R1 - Black, all stock
2005 Saab 92x Aero - TRADED-IN      2010 Toyota Corolla S - SOLD      2005 Audi S4 Avant - SOLD      2008 Acura RDX - SOLD

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#96 2012-01-17 16:59:08

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

I wished we had that heavier steering. I miss the feel that you even have in the 3 series BMW or entry level Audis. I always liked the clutch feel in the A4, pretty easy to drive even for some one like me with very average manual skills, which I appreciate.

I'm surprised you only say it's a little quieter than our 92x wagon-- I think we got to have one of the loudest cars around, relatively. I always am impressed when I go to the car show every year and the german bmws and audis get so quiet when I shut that door.

I used 3M VHB tape for a long while and it worked well, but whenever you do take it off the residue will not be good. I eventually screwed it on like everyone else.

Anyway-- Sweet car! Envious. embeer

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#97 2012-01-17 17:02:37

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

BTW-- loving those wheels!


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#98 2012-01-17 17:06:42

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

phillipj wrote:

I wished we had that heavier steering. I miss the feel that you even have in the 3 series BMW or entry level Audis. I always liked the clutch feel in the A4, pretty easy to drive even for some one like me with very average manual skills, which I appreciate.

I'm surprised you only say it's a little quieter than our 92x wagon-- I think we got to have one of the loudest cars around, relatively. I always am impressed when I go to the car show every year and the german bmws and audis get so quiet when I shut that door.

I used 3M VHB tape for a long while and it worked well, but whenever you do take it off the residue will not be good. I eventually screwed it on like everyone else.

Anyway-- Sweet car! Envious. embeer

The owner gave me a spare bumper plate that has screw holes from the previous plates.  So I can use that to fasten my front plate.  The trouble is that I having the hardest time removing the nice bumper plate.  I'm suppose to use a big screwdriver and pry it off, I tried that, but the locking tabs are really snug and I don't want to break anything.


2013 Subaru WRX 5-door - 5 speed, Ice Silver, all stock
2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart - Rotor Glow, all stock
2008 Yamaha R1 - Black, all stock
2005 Saab 92x Aero - TRADED-IN      2010 Toyota Corolla S - SOLD      2005 Audi S4 Avant - SOLD      2008 Acura RDX - SOLD

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#99 2012-01-17 17:10:05

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Bunnspeed wrote:

cjaama wrote:

speed808 wrote:


Nope.  Keeping the Corolla S for her.  The Corolla S is the daily driver.  The 92x and S4 are the weekend cars.  I'm just glad I can park the S4 in the garage, the 92x in the driveway and the Corolla S on the street.

no offense, but what's the point of having 2 sporty wagons for weekend cars? why not sell the 9-2x and put the money toward the s4 or maybe buy something else different (a jeep or a convertible?)
the car looks really really clean, please don't drill holes in the bumper.
this thread also needs more pictures

I think keeping the 92x is a smart idea in this situation. To begin with, the 92x Aero is like the 'poor man's Avant', namely it's a fun fast wagon that's actually affordable to beat on on a daily basis. It's a car thats value and reliability aren't all that negatively affected by racking up the miles. The 6MT S4 Avant, on the other hand, is so rare and so expensive to pile on the miles in (in terms of depreciation, gas, and maintenance) that it's a good idea to keep the miles down on it. Every mile it racks up gets you that much closer to an exorbitantly expensive repair or service interval, and reduces its value, which correlates with its 'unicorn' status afforded to such a clean, low mile example. The S4 isn't a car you want to piss away, but something to be saved for special-ish occasions. BUT, it is such a nice, wonderful car that the whole point of buying it was to buy something epic, not something practical. This way he can both drive something that's a reliable throwaway car that's fun, and also have something reeaally nice to hold onto for a while. Plus, as I mentioned before, the S4 will be practically free if he keeps the miles down and sells it for what he bought it for within the next year or three.

i would agree that he keep the 9-2x if it was his daily driver, but it's not. unless i'm missing something.


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#100 2012-01-17 17:17:19

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Re: Picking up the S4 Avant tomorrow

Sounds like it's a semi-daily.  Corolla S keeps the GF happy, which in itself is pretty priceless.


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