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#151 2012-02-22 11:17:12

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Re: Clutch Install

Here are the part numbers for the axle seals:

Left: 806735230 Updated number: Left/Driver side: 806735290
Right: 806735240 Updated number: Right/Passenger side: 806735300

O-Ring: 806975010 (same on both sides)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NHMoHCs8Eyk/T0U_I0MgBII/AAAAAAAABA0/3zPIRqcXukg/s640/IMAG0507.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2JbcVIfaAM8/T0U_eb_xmQI/AAAAAAAABA8/KX-gDyfuiLM/s640/IMAG0508.jpg

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#152 2012-02-22 12:39:29

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Re: Clutch Install

Just for future reference, the spring is kind of hidden inside the seal.  It won't show up in schematic drawings, and it isn't readily visible when you look at it. Here's a picture showing where the spring is located:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KU1FsDj-Q3A/T0U_75MFE2I/AAAAAAAABBE/H_XTJJiOKpE/s640/IMAG0509.jpg

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#153 2012-02-22 14:30:47

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Re: Clutch Install

So, annoyingly, the dealer gave me the axle seals in reverse (i.e., he gave me a drivers side and told me it was a passenger side, and vice versa).

I started to set the new passenger side axle seal into the driver side, and after I got it part way in I thought I should compare it to the old and busted one just to make sure everything was good to go.  I saw that they were reversed, so this is how I caught that things were backward. I pulled that new one out, and it tore up the mating surface a bit:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mp6w7pCM1iE/T0VBEC95eKI/AAAAAAAABBU/7EPEs163VlE/s640/IMAG0513.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QlxfrzgbeRs/T0VBPooZVrI/AAAAAAAABBs/kz3flLXtAdo/s640/IMAG0512.jpg

The rest of the surface looks completely smooth and undamaged. Just for clarity: I screwed up my original driver side seal; then pulled it and mistakenly started to set a new passenger side seal into the driver side spot; then caught it and pulled out the new passenger seal;  then set a new driver seal. 

Currently the differential has a new driver seal and an old passenger seal. 

The damaged one in the photos is the passenger seal.  (Hopefully that didn't make things even more confusing.)

Should I use this to replace the old passenger seal anyway, or is this a don't-fix-it-if-it-isn't-leaking situation?

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#154 2012-02-22 14:33:16

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Re: Clutch Install

The inner lip with the spring is what actually does 99% of the sealing on that seal. If the only damage is to the outer rubber, it's probably fine to use.


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#155 2012-02-22 15:57:43

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#156 2012-02-22 16:39:52

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Re: Clutch Install

God I had no idea so much went into this job!  Good on your tackling it!  up


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#157 2012-02-22 17:48:48

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Transmission is back in.   banana


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#158 2012-02-22 18:10:23

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oh god, i just realized that i put the transmission back in, and forgot to put the new clutch and fly wheel in  sadbanana

such an idiot

just kidding :-)


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#159 2012-02-22 18:14:18

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Re: Clutch Install

You forgot the beer again  facepalm


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#160 2012-02-22 18:44:51

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Re: Clutch Install

arrow-up Second most quotable post of the day.   sadbanana


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#161 2012-02-22 18:44:56

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Re: Clutch Install

kornfeld wrote:

oh god, i just realized that i put the transmission back in, and forgot to put the new clutch and fly wheel in  sadbanana

such an idiot

just kidding :-)

are you fucking kidding me?   lol

ahhh PHIL!!!  lol  see it was so easy you had to do it twice... HHAHAHA

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#162 2012-02-22 18:50:25

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Holy shit


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#163 2012-02-22 18:54:14

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Re: Clutch Install

so nice when it isn't me....


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#164 2012-02-22 19:30:12

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Re: Clutch Install

biggrin Haha, you had me going there for a second. I actually put a trans back in and realized that I forgot the clutch fork! banghead


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#165 2012-02-22 20:16:31

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Re: Clutch Install

I had been dying to come up with something of my own ever since I first read the "I ported my turbo by sucking sand through the intake while the engine was running" story.   biggrin



Anyway....any tricks to getting the axles back into the differential?  That's the last remaining major task.  Then put the ball joints back together, tighten up the DP, put the intercooler back in, yada yada yada.... embeer

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#166 2012-02-22 20:18:35

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There was basically zero chance of me skipping any steps....I was consulting three walk-throughs before I did anything. All the rust was the main factor slowing me down, but the compulsive directions-checking probably didn't help either.


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#167 2012-02-22 20:42:56

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Re: Clutch Install

kornfeld wrote:

Anyway....any tricks to getting the axles back into the differential?

Mine have always just popped right in (with some force)  hmm

Am I doing it wrong?


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#168 2012-02-22 20:47:57

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Re: Clutch Install

Get the axles started in and pull out on the hub and swing it back in toward the trans.  This way you use the weight if the hub assembly to pop it in.


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#169 2012-02-22 21:50:49

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Re: Clutch Install

I just stumbled on this thread:

http://www.mnsportcompacts.net/forum/sh … -Disaster!

And read this, which is quoted from a subaru manual:

"When installing the clutch cover on the flywheel,
position the clutch cover so that there is a gap of
120† or more between “0’ marks on the flywheel
and clutch cover. (“0 marks indicate the directions
of residual unbalance.)"

I didn't see this in any walk throughs, and I didn't see it on the instructions that came from Exedy.  Am I fucked?


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#170 2012-02-22 22:05:55

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Re: Clutch Install

kornfeld wrote:

I just stumbled on this thread:

http://www.mnsportcompacts.net/forum/sh … -Disaster!

And read this, which is quoted from a subaru manual:

"When installing the clutch cover on the flywheel,
position the clutch cover so that there is a gap of
120�  or more between “0’ marks on the flywheel
and clutch cover. (“0 marks indicate the directions
of residual unbalance.)"

I didn't see this in any walk throughs, and I didn't see it on the instructions that came from Exedy.  Am I fucked?

1 in 3 chance that they are 120 deg apart.


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#171 2012-02-22 22:07:03

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Bryan wrote:

1 in 3 chance that they are 120 deg apart.

Man, have you read the rest of this thread?!?  There is zero percent chance of something spontaneously working out.  biggrin


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#172 2012-02-22 22:08:37

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I don't recall even seeing any zeros on either the flywheel or the clutch cover...and I looked pretty closely over the flywheel while I was degreasing it before install.


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#173 2012-02-22 22:14:07

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Thanks for the tips fellas, both axles are in.  However, there's a slight gap on both sides, and I can't remember if it was there before:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V_2W4SfQSxw/T0WutsS9hII/AAAAAAAABB8/P-dfT7cH_dg/s640/IMAG0514.jpg

The axles are definitely set, and don't slide out...but I'm not sure if they're supposed to be further in. Do those need to be pushed in further?


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#174 2012-02-22 23:00:19

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That looks right to me.  up


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#175 2012-02-23 01:08:23

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Re: Clutch Install

I'm done.


I'm finally done.


I took it for a drive, and the clutch felt great.  No chattering, no funny noises, no nothing.


Sadly, I think I did mess up at least one ball joint, because I've got a clunk now when turning, particularly when simultaneously hitting a bump (like pulling into my driveway and going over the lip at the bottom).  I'll probably swap those tomorrow.  I didn't take the car up past about 20 because of the clunking, so I may find the car gets the shakes at speed, but I've got my fingers crossed.


Either way, I'm so relieved.  Thank you to everyone for all of the help.   embeer embeer embeer


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