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#1 2013-06-13 14:54:20

racerjim
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The Pass

Just re-watched this for the first time in a while.  If you never saw Zanardi make "the pass" on Herta at Laguna Seca in '96, this will be 1:36 of your life well spent.


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#2 2013-06-13 15:03:55

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Re: The Pass

All he did was dive bomb the corner and ruin the other guy’s line…  unamused

Desperate.... and rude!  biggrin

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#3 2013-06-13 15:34:45

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Re: The Pass

Man oh man, braking that late in the corkscrew...

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#4 2013-06-13 15:35:07

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Re: The Pass

I remember that.  Did his 4 wheels crossing the rumble strips constitute cutting a corner, or was he still on track since 2 wheels were in contact with asphalt?  To me, he cut that corner - he didn't outbrake Herta and forced him to change his approach to the corner.  If he'd have locked up or smoked the tires in braking - the cars are so unweighted at that crest, that it'd be an easy case to make that it was a "pass".


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#5 2013-06-13 15:50:49

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Re: The Pass

What an amateur.  I do that every single lap in GT5 at probably twice the speed.  biggrin

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#6 2013-06-13 16:08:09

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Re: The Pass

GT5 was the first thing that came to my mind as well lol

Cat balls picture is win also

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#7 2013-06-13 16:19:25

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Re: The Pass

LordZed wrote:

GT5 was the first thing that came to my mind as well lol

+1, I also use the ramming method.  alot

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#8 2013-06-13 17:11:54

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Re: The Pass

Bryan wrote:

I remember that.  Did his 4 wheels crossing the rumble strips constitute cutting a corner, or was he still on track since 2 wheels were in contact with asphalt?  To me, he cut that corner - he didn't outbrake Herta and forced him to change his approach to the corner.  If he'd have locked up or smoked the tires in braking - the cars are so unweighted at that crest, that it'd be an easy case to make that it was a "pass".

I don't recall that a corner cutting penalty was ever considered; frankly I don't think anyone believed that some one could make that move and make it stick.  Zanardi had car control beyond human capability, and balls like that cat a few posts up.


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#9 2013-06-13 17:58:15

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Re: The Pass

john_matrix wrote:

LordZed wrote:

GT5 was the first thing that came to my mind as well lol

+1, I also use the ramming method.  alot

Man, you guys must suck.  Brake earlier for the corner, you'll carry more speed out of the bottom of the corkscrew and set up better for that RH sweeper.


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#10 2013-06-13 17:58:29

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Re: The Pass

IMO, this was the best pass in Formula One. 

Spa 2000 - Hakkinen passes Schumacher as they both go around Zonta.

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