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#1 2013-10-21 15:34:05

Octivarium
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From: Burleson, TX
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Traded in the Saabaru

Picked up a 2014 Marine Blue Forester XT Premium Friday night. Got the call from the salesman I was working with that one had just rolled off the truck. Showed up and drove it and decided to finalize the deal. It only had 6 miles on it before test drive. Absolutely love it so far.

Since it was more of an impromptu purchase, I didn't have time to unmarry the V1 Accessport or remove the short shifter.  So if anybody is looking for a 05 9-2x 5MT with about 85K on the odo, it's at Hiley Subaru in Fort Worth, TX.  If you pick it up send me a PM and I'll give you a great price on the AP for that car, assuming they don't reflash the ECU back to stock.

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#2 2013-10-22 10:58:34

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

I don't think that the dealer can 'flash the car back to stock' without YOUR AP. You should have just left it in the car.


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#3 2013-10-22 12:52:23

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

krazykarguy wrote:

I don't think that the dealer can 'flash the car back to stock' without YOUR AP. You should have just left it in the car.

That's my understanding as well.


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#4 2013-10-22 19:17:45

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

krazykarguy wrote:

I don't think that the dealer can 'flash the car back to stock' without YOUR AP. You should have just left it in the car.

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Re: How to unmarry when AP was stolen?
If the vehicle has a flash using a V1 AccessPort then any type of flashing tool will be able to overwrite our data.

But newer firmware on V2 AccessPorts have a locked mapping feature which can't be overwritten unless it's another V2 AccessPort or you can send in the ECU to COBB to be flashed back to stock.


OP- If you know anyone with the AP-SUB-003 part # then you can use their uninstalled AccessPort to overwrite(install) the data then uninstall; by doing so will put a factory replica map on the ECU.

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#5 2013-10-22 19:40:26

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

Bart, that's good to know- thanks for posting. I've been wondering if my V1 AP craps out if that would necessitate a new ECU if any mechanical changes are made; in my case, that happens periodically when I have to do an exhaust swap for emissions testing. Obviously, I haven't been worried enough that I bothered to research it.


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#6 2013-10-22 20:32:52

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

I've been eying the new Forester for awhile now.  Would love to pick up a top tier one (push button start smile ) as a second car but I am thinking of seeing how soft the used market for them is in half a year or so.  Would love to up the power to STI levels and improve the handling on it.


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#7 2013-10-22 20:48:09

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

That is a nice looking Saabaru.... someone will get a nice car!

Care to contrast the two cars?


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#8 2013-10-22 23:01:01

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

Snaab9-2 wrote:

That is a nice looking Saabaru.... someone will get a nice car!

Care to contrast the two cars?

+1 for the review! Nice timing as my wife and I are actually looking for a replacement car for her & the '14 Forester is on the top of our list. Did you get the manual or CVT? What do you think of the car so far?? I'd love to hear more.

We're looking at the Forester 2.5i Premium, not the turbo model for her since she's fine w/ the base boxer power but I'd like to hear what you think so far.


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#9 2013-10-24 22:04:10

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

Snaab9-2 wrote:

That is a nice looking Saabaru.... someone will get a nice car!

Care to contrast the two cars?

Thanks! big_smile 

It's been about a week with the FXT.  My biggest worry was that I would end up upset switching from a manual to an auto.  It's actually been a great transmission with it being extremely smooth and responsive.  I had never tried out a vehicle with an SI drive selector.  They really do show a big difference switching between them.  Intelligent being a great around town mode.  You have to dip into the throttle more but for casual driving and good MPG it does its job.  Sport is usually where I end up.  Much better throttle response and overall livelier.  Sport Sharp is fun but have mostly stayed out of it for now.  Trying to break in the engine and that mode makes it very difficult as it really wants to run, especially if switching up from Intelligent.  Only once so far did it seem like the CVT got confused for a second.  I was coming to a stop, then the light turned green.  Hit the gas and it was long enough of a pause to know the transmission get tripped up.  But again it was only that once so I chalk it up to an error on my part, maybe hitting the gas to quick or something.

The Saab was only at stage one, but the FXT stock feels much faster.  There is much more torque down low than I ever felt in the 9-2x.  So everyday driving feels much better by not having to really wring it out every time.  The visibility for everyday driving is great.  You get this sense that the windows are just huge and everywhere.  Even the little touch of moving the mirror from the A-pillar to the door and replacing that little panel with glass has helped.  The interior is comfy.  I didn't step up to the touring because I just couldn't come to like the nav unit. Plus I can always go aftermarket later.  The stock stereo is a standard radio, nothing over whelming about it.  But the Bluetooth works great, the USB drive was great to toss a 16GB card in, and the HD radio is nice and clear. The sport seats have leatherette, but it didn't feel cheap to me.  Says sport bolsters but they don't seem any different than the 9-2x.  Big difference was the rear seat legroom.  Leaving the seat where I need it I can sit in the back with several inches to clear. 

So overall I'm extremely happy with the purchase.  banana  Plus was able to get the 2% below invoice price without haggling and I believe 1.7% for 60.


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#10 2013-10-24 22:52:57

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

Octivarium wrote:

Plus was able to get the 2% below invoice price without haggling and I believe 1.7% for 60.

Was that through the Subaru VIP Purchase Program or whatever it's called? I joined the Mt. Washington Observatory a few months ago so that I could have the option of buying a new WRX/STi in the spring if I feel the need to  cool


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#11 2013-10-25 23:53:41

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

skidave wrote:

Octivarium wrote:

Plus was able to get the 2% below invoice price without haggling and I believe 1.7% for 60.

Was that through the Subaru VIP Purchase Program or whatever it's called? I joined the Mt. Washington Observatory a few months ago so that I could have the option of buying a new WRX/STi in the spring if I feel the need to  cool

No, it was actually the discount through Costco. I didn't think it was that low but they showed me the print out and sure enough it was correct. Originally I had looked into it but Costco's website doesn't actually list your cost.


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#12 2013-11-07 13:26:19

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

Hey Octivarium, did you research the maintenance costs of the CVT or just general information about it? Trying to get some more info for a potential Forester purchase  smile


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#13 2013-11-08 18:15:27

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

I didn't research CVT maintenance costs, just general info on the vehicle.  Thing is I only drive about 6000 to 7000 miles a year, so I'm only really looking at general maintenance. 

I'm still getting adjusted to the engine, CVT combo but so far no complaints.  Good luck on the purchase if you end up deciding to get one.  I read online the 2015 models may start to ship around April/May of next year.  So you have time to see if any extras are tossed in for the next model year or grab a great deal on the last of the 2014s early next year.    up


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#14 2013-11-08 18:37:09

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

Dang that's not that many miles. If only! I've put 26k on my Saabaru since buying it a little less than a year and a half ago. My wife, who's car it will be, drives less though.

We have been talking to dealers the last couple days in the NorCal area, mainly hustling internet sales managers to get good prices big_smile and we'll most likely be purchasing this weekend actually. Going for a Premium w/ cold weather package. We did test drive the XT last night though since the sales guy had dreams of up-selling us for a second, and that seems like quite a fun package! If the car was for me, we'd definitely be going for that, but since it's my wife's, she's fine w/ the N/A engine.

I'll definitely post up some pictures with what end up with! Thanks for the help and for relaying your experience w/ the Forester so far.


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#15 2014-03-15 14:35:08

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

bumping this.. i sent you a PM regarding the 92x you traded in. please get back to me if you can!   roxor

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#16 2014-03-17 11:16:09

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Re: Traded in the Saabaru

Naynay wrote:

bumping this.. i sent you a PM regarding the 92x you traded in. please get back to me if you can!   roxor

Reply sent your way.


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