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#51 2017-01-09 10:28:29

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Screenshots from the app. So far the only downfall I see to the system is all the data is stored on the device. There is no place to sign in and save the data. So my first ride I used my tablet, the second ride I used my phone. So each device is only showing one ride now. I guess I will stick to using the phone and use the tablet to watch movies.


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#52 2017-01-12 13:50:11

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Nightcrawler wrote:

Screenshots from the app. So far the only downfall I see to the system is all the data is stored on the device. There is no place to sign in and save the data. So my first ride I used my tablet, the second ride I used my phone. So each device is only showing one ride now. I guess I will stick to using the phone and use the tablet to watch movies.

The Wahoo app does store the data on the device, but you can export it in several different format fairly easily.  If you touch the square with the arrow pointing up you should be given several options on were you can send the data.  Select mail and it should give you a list of various formats.  I normally send myself a .csv after the workout, then I can delete the workout from the history.  They really don't take that much space - I have almost 500 workouts on my phone and they take about 700MB of space.

Requisite bike porn.  If you look closely you can see the Wahoo Speed/Cadence sensor on the chainstay.  Hint: If you use this style sensor order these magnets for use on the crank.  Simply drop one in on the backside of the pedal axle.
http://fcdn.roadbikereview.com/attachments/ritchey/317316d1471489494t-new-ritchey-road-logic-315703d1471489494-new-ritchey-road-logic-2016-configuration.jpg

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#53 2017-01-12 14:38:13

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

I normally send myself a .csv after the workout, then I can delete the workout from the history.  They really don't take that much space - I have almost 500 workouts on my phone and they take about 700MB of space.

I tried that but couldn't figure out how to import it into the Wahoo app on my tablet.


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#54 2017-01-12 19:44:54

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Nightcrawler wrote:

I tried that but couldn't figure out how to import it into the Wahoo app on my tablet.

AFAIK there isn't a way to get it back into the Wahoo app.

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#55 2017-01-28 23:23:51

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Bought a Cervelo P2 this week for racing the Coeur d'Alene 70.3 Ironman in June.  Full Dura Ace with a few other upgraded carbon bits.  Fun, but the kicker was the bonus the seller threw in, an older and ratty aluminum P2 he'd been using on the trainer.  Doing a full tear down and rebuild as a trainer/backup.  Posted a few pics on the instagram for the podcast (diomgy) and I'll post up the time lapse tear down later this week.  Trickiest bit was the bottom bracket, which required putting the spline tool in the vise and using the frame as leverage to break it free.  Worked like a charm.

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#56 2017-01-29 15:50:30

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Sweet.


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#57 2017-02-01 15:48:55

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

As promised:

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#58 2017-02-26 00:10:55

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Done, right at a month to rebuild.  New bottom bracket, spokes/nipples/tube for the front wheel, cables, bar tape.  Rebuilt all bearings, scrubbed off all the sweat yuck, put it back together and did about 2 hours on it this morning.  No major issues, a tad small for me but it'll be just fine as a trainer and backup.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg6/hyperboarder/Mobile%20Uploads/29ABBDBC-7D4A-4338-A228-A0905DC73497_zpszrhz8tp6.jpg

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#59 2017-02-28 10:36:23

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Last night I ordered another Wahoo speed/cadence pods for my other bike when I take it outside. Right now have the hybrid on the trainer. Looking through the Strava app it says that they now support Wahoo devices. I thinking cool, I would upgrade to the premium account for that. Unfortunately last night I could not get the app to discover any Wahoo device. My phone finds them BT and ANT+, but Strava had no luck. I am good with up loading ride data from Wahoo to Strava but it would have been nice to not have to.


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#60 2017-03-01 12:05:41

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Who would pull the trigger on a CycleOps 400 Pro trainer for $900?

https://albany.craigslist.org/bik/6020662606.html


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#61 2017-03-01 12:10:28

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Not a bad deal, but it's big and not particularly mobile vs. a standard trainer which you can stash in a closet.

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#62 2017-03-01 13:48:27

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

It would be setup permanently in the basement. I am trying to figure out if I want to buy a new roadie to replace my 17y/o GT ZR 2000. Then I would leave the GT setup on the trainer year round.


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#63 2017-03-01 23:42:29

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

I prefer to ride on rollers. My riding style is not very suited to a trainer, but works better on rollers.


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#64 2017-03-01 23:47:43

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Always wanted to try rollers.  They seem so much less painful on your ass smile.

Got the race bike all prepped to get fit to me on Friday:

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#65 2017-03-02 09:04:23

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Stopped at the local shop yesterday and told him to talk me out of buying a new road bike. He did an awful job, I'm ordering this tonight. I wasn't so sure of disc brakes on a roadie but he said everything will soon have them. Then I figured why buy a brand new bike and still be behind the times.

Full Shimano 105 components.

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#66 2017-03-02 09:18:34

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Geoff: Not sure if I would want to ride a TT bike on rollers. My back does not like having the back of the bike locked down like a trainer.

Nightcrawler: Looks nice. Full carbon frame?


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#67 2017-03-02 09:22:34

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

SaabaruAero wrote:

Geoff: Not sure if I would want to ride a TT bike on rollers. My back does not like having the back of the bike locked down like a trainer.

Nightcrawler: Looks nice. Full carbon frame?

I use an aluminum roadie with aeros (still have a drop bar) for indoor training.  I'm still getting used to the controls of a full aero cockpit, it's tougher for sure.

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#68 2017-03-02 09:26:53

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

SaabaruAero wrote:

Geoff: Not sure if I would want to ride a TT bike on rollers. My back does not like having the back of the bike locked down like a trainer.

Nightcrawler: Looks nice. Full carbon frame?

Aluminum with carbon fork. I'm still scared of full carbon, I'm not a delicate person.


I have never ridden on rollers.


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#69 2017-03-02 22:21:32

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Geoff, I should bring my rollers out this summer for you to try them.

Nightcrawler, Learn to ride in a hallway. You can use the wall to stay upright. Couple times like that and you will be ready for the wide open expanse of your living room.

http://www.performancebike.com/webapp/w … 34__400134

I have two sets of rollers. I keep one set at work, and I have modified the other set to work as motion rollers. The motion rollers are way more fun to ride.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asj8vYS7FgQ[/youtube]


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#70 2017-03-02 22:29:27

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

What's the benefit of the motion rollers?

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#71 2017-03-02 23:32:17

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

So riding the trainer the back wheel is locked in and to me it feels weird. The regular rollers are more like being on the road, but if you try to move the bike forward or backward it fells locked in. And you feel like you are going to push the bike off the rollers. The first time you try to stand up on the rollers is pretty entertaining. The motion rollers allow the rollers to move fore and aft, and that dampens out the force you are applying so you are less likely to jump the rollers. I can get up to about 37mph on the regular rollers, but can easily get over 40mph on the motion rollers. An ex-pro I know can get up to 55mph on the motion rollers that I built. Look over some the videos, and they are riding the same as they would on the road, you can really throw the bike around. Even normal riding on them feels like the road.

I did make an eddy brake for the rollers and was not able to get my speed over 20mph, but the amount of heat it generated in 5 minutes on the Aluminum rollers was a little disconcerting. If I want more resistance I lower the tire pressure to 80psi.


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#72 2017-03-02 23:33:15

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

I am looking at making a better base out of oak and staining it.


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#73 2017-03-03 08:32:15

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

Bike has been ordered, with tax it came to just over $1,400. I don't plan on telling my gf I bought a new bike. I will just have it hanging around the house and ride it, then see how long it takes her to realize it's new. While talking to the shop owner yesterday, we realized I have been stalking his shop for about 4 years now and this is the first time I've purchased from him.


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#74 2017-03-03 09:02:32

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

That looks scary to me.


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#75 2017-03-03 09:13:14

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Re: Finally, back on two wheels ( with no motor)

arrow-up Once you get used to it there is no problem. You definitely have to pay more attention riding rollers though.


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