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#1 2016-05-18 21:46:08

TNAero2005
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just bought an 05 aero 5mt

what is the best few upgrades power wise?   i have a 20 off 100 coupon on ebay an anxious to buy some more power?


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#2 2016-05-18 22:08:59

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

Retune.


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#3 2016-05-19 05:56:54

TNAero2005
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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

So, do i need to order any parts?  Like a stage 2 cobb?  Or do i just take my car somewhere and have them tune the factory cpu?   Sorry new to this type of vehicle.


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#4 2016-05-19 10:52:59

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

Get a catless up pipe, a turbo back exhaust, and a Cobb Accessport. Flash the ecu to their off the shelf Stage 2 tune, and call it a day.

If you have a couple weeks, I'll probably have a V1 AccessPort up for grabs.

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#5 2016-05-19 11:30:22

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

cade wrote:

Get a catless up pipe, a turbo back exhaust, and a Cobb Accessport. Flash the ecu to their off the shelf Stage 2 tune, and call it a day.

If you have a couple weeks, I'll probably have a V1 AccessPort up for grabs.

Do exactlly this  arrow-up but spring for the V2 or V3. V1 can kill...


'05 AERO 5mt - Desert Silver - IHI VF39 - Mishimoto TMIC - STI pink injectors - Cobb EBCS - AEM 320 fuel pump - Cobb XLE BPV - Mishimoto radiator - Cobb springs - Kartboy short shifter - Godspeed swaybar - 92k mi.

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#6 2016-05-19 11:34:56

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

eazy-e wrote:

Do exactlly this  arrow-up but spring for the V2 or V3. V1 can kill...

Haven't died yet. Flashed back to stage 2 recently w/ my V1 and now my ticking time bomb/paperweight sits in the closet for another two years.  lol

That reminds me, I need to update my signature. No longer sad stage stock.


2005 Saab 92x Aero 5MT | The basic mods, Stage 2.04
1968 Dodge Charger 383 | WIP, restored almost everything but body work
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#7 2016-05-19 12:04:23

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

I've had my V1 Stage 2 flash for a couple years. No problems here. But I am going to add an upgraded fuel pump, injectors, and EBCS and get protuned to get everything I can out of the stock turbo. If that still leaves me wanting, I'll throw in a VF39 or the like and be done. For now.

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#8 2016-05-19 22:29:22

TNAero2005
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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

Hey guys thanks for the input.  Just got the car so no rush....but reading around,  everyone seems to think at least stage 2.  My question would be what price range for the cat less up pipe, Cobb access port, turbo back exhaust, getting it all installed and tuned?   And exactly what all kinds of results would I get from this?    How much would it improve the 0-60 times?   Thanks again for the info.


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#9 2016-05-19 23:51:47

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

Would leaving it stock and a stage 1 flash be of any benefit? I'm not to the point where I want to replace the turbo back just yet.

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#10 2016-05-20 05:41:52

TNAero2005
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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

hmmm good question robrob


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#11 2016-05-20 07:29:57

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

If at all possible don't mess with off the shelf tunes, find a local reputable tuner to street tune it. Cheaper and will result is a much better fit for your car. Modest driveability improvements if you tune a stock car, significant improvements if you swap out the stock DP.  Tactrix cables are around $100 if you want to dabble in tuning or data logging.

If you live in the northeast there are many quality guys to choose from.

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#12 2016-05-20 11:18:01

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

Right now my priorities are mostly maintenance; the uppipe, h-6 rear brakes, shocks and springs (GR-2 and sti pinks). I'm on the watch for other parts and tune ideas.

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#13 2016-05-20 22:23:55

TNAero2005
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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

does the catless up pipe set off the check engine light?


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#14 2016-05-21 14:53:49

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

Yes, but fixed with a resistor

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#15 2016-05-21 18:31:04

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

TNAero2005 wrote:

does the catless up pipe set off the check engine light?

Some UPs have a bung for the EGT probe, so you can install it and have no CEL. Not worth the hassle, much better off using the simple resistor mod to take the EGT out of the mix.

Always use new gaskets with an UP. It is one of the biggest PITA job on these cars because it is so easy to get a leak that will squeal like a stuck pig on boost. I usually drop the EM and wiggle out the bottom, I may do my next one removing the turbo since I'm swapping the DP at the same time.

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#16 2017-04-28 18:26:56

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

ok guys, new question, i got the catless up pipe and downpipes with all new denso o2 sensors installed and headers,  didnt get an exhaust bc i like it quiet.   Now, i need to get it tuned, but someone told me on here dont get the cobb accessport v2, get a pro tune locally.  Well i am in east tennessee and the only place i found that can do it, wasnt 500 dollars to tune it.   Is that not an outrageous price?  Also if i did go with the accessport, is it something i can do myself?    Is it ok to be driving the car before it gets tuned?

thanks for the help guys


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#17 2017-04-28 18:38:08

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

TNAero2005 wrote:

ok guys, new question, i got the catless up pipe and downpipes with all new denso o2 sensors installed and headers,  didnt get an exhaust bc i like it quiet.   Now, i need to get it tuned, but someone told me on here dont get the cobb accessport v2, get a pro tune locally.  Well i am in east tennessee and the only place i found that can do it, wasnt 500 dollars to tune it.   Is that not an outrageous price?  Also if i did go with the accessport, is it something i can do myself?    Is it ok to be driving the car before it gets tuned?

thanks for the help guys

AP can do Stage 2 just fine, but custom tune is the best since it is catered to your car.  Most places make a custom map that you can use with your AccessPort, thus allowing you to flash back to stock easily instead of having to go back to them.


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2007 Toyota Corolla CE
2016 VW GTI S 6MT
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#18 2017-04-28 18:43:01

TNAero2005
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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

hey drew, i remember you, how ya doing man?     2 questions, is 500 alot to tune it?   and why would you need to go back stock?


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#19 2017-04-29 10:03:21

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

TNAero2005 wrote:

hey drew, i remember you, how ya doing man?     2 questions, is 500 alot to tune it?   and why would you need to go back stock?

I don't know if that is a lot for a custom tune, but it does sound high.  When I had my car, I just used the Cobb Stage 2 Map and had no issues.  Going back to stock is just if you plan on taking some parts off in the future or you want to sell the car more stock.  It's not that important though.

Also, I was able to use my accessport to turn off the check engine light with a catless up-pipe and any other exhaust related lights.


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2007 Toyota Corolla CE
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#20 2017-04-29 12:01:58

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

TNAero2005 wrote:

hey drew, i remember you, how ya doing man?     2 questions, is 500 alot to tune it?   and why would you need to go back stock?

$500 isn't too far out of the norm for a good protune, as long as that price also includes dyno rental. Having an Accessport is nice like Drew was saying so you can switch maps when inspection time comes. I'm not sure about the laws in TN though, so that may be a moot point. Also the Accessport provides a lot of gauges for monitoring A/F ratio, Boost levels, etc.


06' Silver Aero 5MT - Cobb Turboback, Stage II  93 octane tune, ST coilovers (KW Variant1s), Cobb short shifter, 22mm front and 24mm rear whiteline sways and endlinks, engine rebuild (Manley forged rods and pistons)
White 2015 WRX - Whiteline rear swaybar, Perrin brass shifter bushing, Cobb J pipe, Cobb Accessport, custom buzzard damage

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#21 2017-04-29 23:31:43

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

$500 for a dyno tune is reasonable for a quality job you'd be using the dyno for an hour or so. I don't understand the AP appeal, but I haven't used on since v2 so maybe they offer some to account for their $500+ price tag. A $15 OBDII scanner and $5 Torque app can monitor a lot of things if you like gauges, a $150 Tactrix cable lets you change maps or go back to your stock map.  More power, smoother, safer, all pros for custom tune.

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#22 2017-04-29 23:51:45

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

thanks for the info guys, i guess i will make my appointment and get the tune for 500 dollars.........i have no plans to return it to stock, and there are no vehicle inspections in tennessee, and i have alot of cars, this is just one i will drive from time to time............but i still have the question, can i buy a cobb access port 2 and just hook it up and do a tune that it comes with myself or is there alot more to it than just plug it in and set it up, i have never done anything like that before.......thanks


2005 Saabaru Aero 5MT, 1994 Integra jdm built GSR, 1995 Impala SS Candy blue 20s, 1994 Jeep Wrangler 5sp body & suspension lift 35s, 2003 Acura TL Type S, 2003 Honda CRV, 1966 Chevelle SS Clone 402 BB, 1999 Chevy Silverado LT, 1992 Honda Civic VX Gas Miser, 2005 Ninja 250R,  1986 Toyota Truck........Admitted Car Hoarder.........and knowing is half the battle.

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#23 2017-04-30 00:03:20

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

TNAero2005 wrote:

thanks for the info guys, i guess i will make my appointment and get the tune for 500 dollars.........i have no plans to return it to stock, and there are no vehicle inspections in tennessee, and i have alot of cars, this is just one i will drive from time to time............but i still have the question, can i buy a cobb access port 2 and just hook it up and do a tune that it comes with myself or is there alot more to it than just plug it in and set it up, i have never done anything like that before.......thanks

A Cobb Accessport comes with preloaded OTS Stage I, Stage II, etc tunes which are plug and play as you mentioned. Only thing is these are not optimized for catless downpipes like I believe you went with. OTS maps are iffy at best even with a high flow cat, so I agree with everyone else get a protune. Make sure the tuner knows what he's doing though and is preferably authorized as a Cobb protuner or at the very least has experience with WRXs (even if you don't go with the Accessport being an authorized Cobb Protuner shows some level of competency), list can be found here https://www.cobbtuning.com/dealers.

Last edited by sohlman (2017-04-30 00:06:51)


06' Silver Aero 5MT - Cobb Turboback, Stage II  93 octane tune, ST coilovers (KW Variant1s), Cobb short shifter, 22mm front and 24mm rear whiteline sways and endlinks, engine rebuild (Manley forged rods and pistons)
White 2015 WRX - Whiteline rear swaybar, Perrin brass shifter bushing, Cobb J pipe, Cobb Accessport, custom buzzard damage

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#24 2017-04-30 00:03:38

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

Make sure all maintenance are in check before making it perform more than it's expected.

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#25 2017-04-30 00:05:08

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Re: just bought an 05 aero 5mt

tooalmazing wrote:

Make sure all maintenance are in check before making it perform more than it's expected.

This  up up Do an oil change etc before the dyno tune even if it isn't due yet.


06' Silver Aero 5MT - Cobb Turboback, Stage II  93 octane tune, ST coilovers (KW Variant1s), Cobb short shifter, 22mm front and 24mm rear whiteline sways and endlinks, engine rebuild (Manley forged rods and pistons)
White 2015 WRX - Whiteline rear swaybar, Perrin brass shifter bushing, Cobb J pipe, Cobb Accessport, custom buzzard damage

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